New Colors

[Topaz]

((You can pick up to 3 answers, if need be. Please don't abuse this. I need honest answers. :3))

I've been worrying about this a lot lately. Going over the plans some of us had originally discussed, I have serious doubts about if the new colors are a good idea or not. I need everyone's input for this, because I simply won't allow such a drastic plot change to be implemented without consulting you all first.

Just so everyone is on the same page, I'll list and briefly explain the causes for the color mutations that we've come up with so far. These were not all decided upon yet, they were simply the ideas that have been thrown out there so far. If you have any ideas of your own, explain them and if they make sense I'll put them up here. ^-^

1. Chemicals - This can be done a number of ways. A certain female dragon can be exposed to/ingest a certain chemical for some reason. Pretty vague at this point. xD

2. Radiation - An ultrasound of a pregnant female, most likely.

3. Extreme Temperatures - The Hatching Grounds somehow being tampered with, or an irresponsible mother.

4. Parasites/Disease - Some kind of bug/airborne disease or virus or something that gets a pregnant female sick.

5. Hereditary/Combining Defects - This would only work if the mother/father of the clutch has a defect, or they both do and they combine somehow.

6. Bacteria - Before the clutch has hardened, a bacteria is absorbed from the air/sands that affects some of the the embryos' DNA; the genes dealing with color, specifically.

I'll hold my own opinions on these until some of you have gotten your say. I really want to hear your input. :3 And please keep your responses as organized as possible so we all know what you're talking about. <3

[Houka Ryuu]

I'm all for having new colors but not too many of them. My thinking is the new colors come about after the mother has clutched her eggs. The egg sacs are still somewhat soft and bacteria from Earth, harmless to the dragon within but somehow changes things with their DNA more specifically dealing with colors. That I think would be more plausible and at least the new colors won't be for all the new hatchlings but only for a very few who were more susceptible to the bacteria to make them change their colors.

[Topaz]

I like that. :3 -adds to list-

[PhazonDragon]

(Pardon my spelling. iTouch is annoying...)

I've voted "yes but only if the cause makes sense."
My second choice was "Yes but not too many..." so I like a combination of these two options. XD

But anyway, I'm not completely satsified with the current causes, but they are better than spewing out random colors of like.. Hot pink and pompus purple. We want to be creative and original, but at the same time keeping it realistic. I'm thinking my favorite cause that this moment in the genetics one. I mean, if Elonverrilth were to Catch a gold or even a green for that matter (Jadavath?) some variation in the bone structure could case a subspecies of raptor-like dragons... Where they stand on their hide legs, and their forelegs are used in t-Rex fashion..

But that's me getting into defects, not new colors. Of course, with Skirth, we could end up with melonistic versions of each color... As a sub-mutation or something? But it totally depends on how uncanon you want Rocky to be. I have no preference for this bit, since I've always thought or it as noncanon, since it's based on Earth, but it seems others think this as semicanon.. Anyway it's not important. XD

If anything, I think new colors shouldn't be drastically different from the originals... Like maybe a copper-type as a third metallic.. Just a mutation of a bronze. Or like a teal/aquamarine color from a green/blue mating? Something not too different from the current colors. Even a very pale blue or something would work... Gray? Peach? Tan? I dunno. I'm just listing off a few.

However, I don't want to see too many sport colors. I'd be good with two or three, but 10 is way too many. I think even five is pushing it. And again it's up to how uncanon Rocky is... ._.

I'm thinking that options 1, 2, and 6 are the most plausible for new colors, while the others would cause defects. Buti guess all of those would case some kind of defect... And would could combine the new colors with defects. Such as the pale-colored dragons are sensitive to sunlight, a bit like whers, but not as intense. Or the new gray color is prone to sickness. Or the new copper color has very brittle bones. And this trait carries over to others of the same color... Or even to their offspring. Oh the possiblities! We might be better off creating an original roleplay than a Pern one! XD

Hah. Long post is long. I feel like I'm missing something, but I can't think of anything. :/

[Houka Ryuu]

I'd have to agree with Phazzy that the new colors should not be too drastically different from the current colors.

Random note: Here's a link to an online color combination tool that might be useful. Combine Colors Tool

[Topaz]

Yes, the colors are a given. ^-^ I would rather leave Rocky than sit here ant let hot pink and purple dragons shell. >>

[Wolfy]

I completely agree!!!!!

[PhazonDragon]

Nice to know we think along the same lines, Topaz. xD
-ahem- -coughs-

So... Anyone else want to add their opinion or totally blow mine out of the water? Or something. :/ That's a pet peeve of mine... When people vote on an important matter, but don't offer their opinion on a matter that's asking for an opinion. XD

If the whole "Elonverrilth breeds raptor children" thing even happens, by the way, I'm getting a candidate. ASAP. I want to play one of Elon's raptor children.
Oh lawd, I can see it now.. -doodles- |D

[Wolfy]

New colors would be nice, yeah. But the plot and colors would have to be watched very strictly, so that it didn't get out of hand. Some of the other Weyrs are doing this.

Of the causes you have listed, only 1, 5, and 6 really make sense to me.

[phyrstyr]

I like the idea of colors, but they would probably have to have an accompanying defect. color difference, unless a distracting shade of neon orange, shouldnt be enough to take them away from helping their world fight thread...

but i also had a semi realistic idea? possibly?
Maybe scientists are testing genetic modification. and they used dragon embryos because they had already been tampered with? Maybe they decided to start small and work with the genes that control color? or maybe they wanted to to see if that genome affects other systems in the body? just so that they wouldnt know if they would be able to fight thread and so needed to stay at rocky for observation or something.
i dont know if that would work... but i just thought about it and was all like 'thats so stupid it just might work!' /input

[Houka Ryuu]

Hmm with our scientists' fondness for genome experiments, that just might be possible. The science dudes and dudettes might be dying to get their hands on a dead or live specimen that they could tweak/experiment genetics with. *shrugs* And in so doing might even cause more unnatural defects like maybe wingless dragons. But meh, I would be too sad if wingless dragons actually hatched. But yeah, Phyrstyr's idea has merit. ^_^

[Topaz]

Well a number of the dragons that we have at Rocky are here purely because the Pernese are so traditional and would rather them leave than disrupt the cycle of things. That being said, I think new colors would be looked upon in the same way.

However, I'm also game for genetic mutations. ^-^

[Wolfy]

Phaz ha a good idea! Ask her! If sje doesn't remember, than I do!

[PhazonDragon]

Yis I do have a good idea. X3 It combines causes one and two, and could make for some fun threading...

So I was thinking about Crucith with her Flight coming up and all, but I was also thinking about how she would react to having to get an ultrasound... She might not care much for her offspring, but she's not going to submit to the will of the doctor to make sure "her children are all right." That's cause two. Cause one comes into play when they end up having to drug Crucith (sadate her, what have you) to get her to cooperate. The combination of the heavy drugs in her system, as well as the ultrasonic waves, might not be particularly benefitting to the anatomy of an alien dragon...

But yeah. /posts it here because it's not all too secret.

And I like Phyr's idea! But aren't the Pernese against that? Or wouldn't they be against it? With dragons held in such high regard. Or at least the Pernese weyrlings and riders won't agree to it. But that's what secrecy is for, right? :B

[FaizahPandora]

I miss alot...

[Wolfy]

No you don't. Not much has been going on.

I agree with Phaz; Phyr, I do not like your idea, I do not like it at all!

[FaizahPandora]

I do miss a lot. Almost everywhere has been posted in since I was last able to reply.

[Wolfy]

Nah, we've just been bored. Especially me!

[FaizahPandora]

Hey, instead of spamming here, come talk to me in the disccusion and sharing thing. I made a thread there.

[PhazonDragon]

Jun 2, 2010 14:01:05 GMT -5 Wolfy said:

No you don't. Not much has been going on.

I agree with Phaz; Phyr, I do not like your idea, I do not like it at all!

;^; I didn't say I didn't like the idea... I'm just saying that the Pernese weyrlings and riders might be against it, if dragons are held in high regard. I like the idea, personally, and I think it would be a perfect way for new colors to be added, especially with scientists wanting to play around with alien genes... If anything, it might be a secret thing that happens in the back corner, and doesn't ever get mentioned until after the eggs hatch.. or not mentioned at all.

[ailedd]

Ok so I didn't bother reading every post, cuz it's sooo tiny on this lil screen, but if you ask me I say it should be one or two colors. One male one female. But the reAson for it being something to do with forced exposure to radiation from military. It makes sence too, because you know there's bound to be some person with enough rank in millitary that would want to test. I'm going to go ahead and through out a couple colors too. Male= red or black color. Female= peach/orange tones or ( yea yea hate me) a deep blue purple. Just saying goverment already does animal testing so it wouldent be a hard story to belive. Plus probably a greens, seeing as a gold would murder them. Lol. So anyway that's my idea.

Ps sorry if it's already been said. I can't read that well on my iPod...

[Topaz]

Not sure about the colors, but that will be sorted out much later anyway. :3 As for the forced radiation, neither the Pernese on Earth or the president of the US would allow anything to be forced upon the dragons, (aside from reasonable laws and restrictions). I could, however, see some kind of crazy secret organization/other country unknown to the government stealing a dragon/egg and doing terrible things to it. I believe something like that has indeed been brought up, whether in this thread or otherwise, and it is being taken into consideration. :3 The radiation itself, aside from the reason for the radiation, is also already one of the suggested causes for mutation. ^-^